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    狼寶寶 GreenReaper 的頭像
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    I think having one wiki rather than two is the best approach, if possible. A Chinese furry wiki is not likely to have many contributors to start with, and making twice as much work for them seems like a bad idea.

    As it happens, some furries from the Czech Republic have just started a Czech version of WikiFur. They are a part of WikiFur and we link to them with the interlanguage links that Kakumi mentioned. If there is only a little information in Czech, a reader who knows English can easily go to the English site to learn more. It could be the same with Chinese.

    We would be glad to link as partners with a Chinese furry wiki, whether or not it is "Chinese WikiFur". Being hosted on Wikia or a separate site does not matter to us. Wikia does have a Chinese community builder if you wish to talk to them about being hosted there.


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    青年狼 卡庫爾 的頭像
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    Wolves' Paradise has set up a "Paradise Encyclopedia" that you can take a look at it. However it's license is CC-by-nd-sa(!) so it is impossible to share content between WPE and WikiFur.

    BTW, (to GreenReaper) how often do you check this topic?

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    The first thing to overcome when translating furry texts into Chinese is how to translate the word "furry". In fact, the article on Theriantrophy in the Chinese Wikipedia is pretty messed up by members of the Paradise... because they usually translate "furry" and "theriantrophy" as "獸人", literally "Beast People".

    I took all the furry stuff to a new article, "獸人迷"(lit. "beast man fan"), which should better correspond to the article Furry Fandom in the English Wikipedia.


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    狼寶寶 GreenReaper 的頭像
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    引用 作者: 卡庫爾
    Wolves' Paradise has set up a "Paradise Encyclopedia" that you can take a look at it. However it's license is CC-by-nd-sa(!) so it is impossible to share content between WPE and WikiFur.
    I looked at the site and it says CC-BY-NC-ND. How does that work? ND means that only the original author can modify the page. CC-BY-NC-SA makes more sense, though it is still overly restrictive in my opinion . . . I think if people want to make money out of WikiFur, they are welcome to, it will just make the website more popular and encourage others to improve it. Nobody has done so yet, though.

    引用 作者: 卡庫爾
    BTW, (to GreenReaper) how often do you check this topic?
    I have it set to email me on replies now. But I happened to look here today because someone created a WikiFur page about Wolves' Paradise . . .


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    青年狼 卡庫爾 的頭像
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    引用 作者: GreenReaper
    I have it set to email me on replies now. But I happened to look here today because someone created a WikiFur page about Wolves' Paradise . . .
    It's me! ^_^ When I go online I usually go by the name Kakurady Drakenar (卡库拉迪·达格纳尔/卡庫拉迪·達格納爾) but when you my user page on WikiFur (updated today) you'll see that I like to take the name NekoYasha when nobody's looking ^_-*

    And yes, doesn't ND misses the whole point of wiki? 'Cause wiki is all about collaborative editing.

    Of course, maybe Kiba doesn't know.


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    狼寶寶 GreenReaper 的頭像
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    引用 作者: 卡庫爾
    And yes, doesn't ND misses the whole point of wiki? 'Cause wiki is all about collaborative editing.

    Of course, maybe Kiba doesn't know.
    Perhaps the intent was "you can edit pages, but you can't copy to another website". However, the license is usually applied for each document, not for the wiki as a whole. The wiki is just a "collection of documents" (the GFDL term).

    For what it is worth, we have had little problem with people reusing our work under the GFDL, which is basically CC-BY-SA - and if we did, I doubt our license would stop them. It does mean it is possible for a group to fork the wiki, but that would do nothing unless they also split the community . . . and if people decide to do that, the leader is not doing their job properly.


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    樂園創辦狼 傳說中的狼王 狼王白牙 的頭像
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    引用 作者: 卡庫爾
    Wolves' Paradise has set up a "Paradise Encyclopedia" that you can take a look at it. However it's license is CC-by-nd-sa(!) so it is impossible to share content between WPE and WikiFur.
    引用 作者: GreenReaper
    I looked at the site and it says CC-BY-NC-ND. How does that work? ND means that only the original author can modify the page. CC-BY-NC-SA makes more sense, though it is still overly restrictive in my opinion . . . I think if people want to make money out of WikiFur, they are welcome to, it will just make the website more popular and encourage others to improve it. Nobody has done so yet, though.
    Well ...sorry that it was my fault , As I installed the media wiki, I would like to let the Paradise Encyclopedia have the function which is like "content management systems" that used for storing some artworks, articles, So I choose "CC-by-nd-sa" . Just like some artists' gallery or something.

    I have corrected the license to : gnu free documentation license.

    Thank you for help to improved the WikiFur page about Wolves' Paradise,GreenReaper. Also, thanks, Neko Yasha who started the page. As you can see that we have the Chinese version about Wolves' Paradise. I have tried to use the Google translate to translate it into English, found that the result looks wired . If need any help to translate the content to wikifur, maybe I can try to start when I have time. But we still need your help to correct some words and grammar


    And well... Thank you for translate my furry name to "Timberwolf Kiba"
    But I thought that I'm an arctic wolf with white color fur.
    If translate word by word ,"狼王白牙" means: White Fang the wolf king.
    Because in Chinese words people usually call an alpha wolf "a wolf king".
    Kiba in Japanese means fang. but I prefer "Kiba"

    Which one is more proper in English's furry name?
    "Alphawolf Kiba" "Kiba the alpha" or any other words..?



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    狼寶寶 GreenReaper 的頭像
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    (Odd - I cannot reply with a quote to your message, the server resets my connection . . .)

    I am glad to have helped with the page - thank you all for your work on it as well!

    I put "White-teeth Timberwolf" myself - I guess the translator put the white with the teeth rather than the wolf, and decided it must be a timberwolf rather than a generic wolf. It was changed later. White-Fang does sound even better though.

    In English, you normally put the title first. I think "Alphawolf Kiba" works well. You could even use "Alphawolf Kiba White-Fang" (or White Fang, or Whitefang) as your full name if you don't mind confusing people who know what "Kiba" means. That would match your deviantART account.


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    樂園創辦狼 傳說中的狼王 狼王白牙 的頭像
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    引用 作者: GreenReaper
    I put "White-teeth Timberwolf" myself - I guess the translator put the white with the teeth rather than the wolf, and decided it must be a timberwolf rather than a generic wolf. It was changed later. White-Fang does sound even better though.

    In English, you normally put the title first. I think "Alphawolf Kiba" works well. You could even use "Alphawolf Kiba White-Fang" (or White Fang, or Whitefang) as your full name if you don't mind confusing people who know what "Kiba" means. That would match your deviantART account.
    Thanks for your suggestion, GreenReaper.
    The word "Kiba" may become more common because of the japanese anime spreading worldwide quickly. So I decided not to confuse the people who know what "Kiba" means.

    Oh, and about the WikiFur page about Wolves' Paradise.
    We can introduce some unique boardss like "wolves packs meeting rock" or the fursuit forum or our forum blogs..etc. Most of our artists prefer posting their artworks on the forum than posting on the gallery, it's also an unique phenomenon.

    But although we have a "secret forum" indeed. Many furry forums have the session that are limited access to non-registered users. So I hope this "keeping a secret"....



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    樂園創辦狼 傳說中的狼王 狼王白牙 的頭像
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    OK... I have spent a lot of time to edit on wikifur.
    Sorry it was very slow since English isn't my mother language.

    I'm picky so that each sentence has to look up at google to conform as possible as the fluent english.
    (But.. I know , it still need much twicking and wording.)

    Now it is almost finished. Any suggestion ?

    Wolves' Paradise on wikifur

    Alphawolf Kiba (me) on wikifur

    英文好的看一下有沒有要補充的, 尤其是關於家族 (Clan) 的介紹



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    Alexander the Great, I cannot be,
    But as Ancalagon the Black, I'll reign free.

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    看了一下

    狼王介紹部分:
    Kiba is a therian who believes that there exists the animal spirits inside him.
    改 Believe he's a wolf with human flesh around him.

    He believes that there must be a propose to be human such like to perform the mission to save the animals as his compatriots.
    改 There must be a reason for him to became a human, like taking actions to save animals as his compatriots.


    樂園部分比較多:
    The first official logo was designed by J.C. at April 2005.
    改 in apr. 2005

    The original logo has been used until September 2006 the merger of Wolves' Paradise and Wild Land.
    改 This logo marks the merging of the forum in Sep. 2006

    家族部分
    In the forum there are considerable users formed their own interactive groups called the "Clans"

    Members belong to a certain "Clan" with different title are reqired to act as a coordinate role before interact with others in the same clan.

    樂園幣部分
    Forum has a virtual currency called "Paradise coins", which are gained via making posts in the forum (the amount varies depends on the length of the post)or interacting with others in the forum (specified with "Coin gaining"), the coins can be used for the renaming service, also, the hidden "Trial system" can be unlocked by paying for it.

    timeline我就不改了 看看吧


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